I've been noticing over the last little while that Reddit has a pit bull problem. Even the head of the American Pit Bull Foundation, which provides information about pit bulls, thinks people are the problem, not pit bulls. Suck up that propaganda. [–]Allthethrowingknives 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (0 children), i mean i still have a scar on my leg from being attacked by a pitbull so maybe i'm biased but i agree, [–]imangryandsad 16 points17 points18 points 2 years ago (1 child). If your post is just one sentence it will be removed. [–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 2 years ago (8 children). Because of the fact that people began using and breeding them as fighting dogs, this danger is always present. Aggression here is checked against the breed standard and the dog’s training. I agree. Not necessarily for aggression issues but likely other issues such as patience and obedience. https://www.adoptapet.com/blog/for-over-100-years-pitbulls-were-our-babysitters/, [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (0 children). It's not that the owners are "a factor," it's that owners are the entire factor. Some breads and personality mixes may be harder to train, so if you're a soy boy get a chihuahua. The ATTS test, at best, measures how brave or timid a dog is, not how dangerous it can be. [–]Synthtastic[S] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (3 children), Of the 5,770 dogs involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks on humans occurring in the U.S. & Canada since September 1982, when I began logging the data, 4,043 (70%) were pit bulls; 4,874 (86%) were of related molosser breeds, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, bull mastiffs, boxers, and their mixes. Case closed. Pit bull victims are attacked by trusted family pets or pit bulls that escaped their property or strayed. Sara Enos writes how people do not recognize the huge responsibility of owning such an energetic dog, which results in these dogs being abused, or left in shelters or on the streets. Back in the day, this breed was meant to hunt lions! Particularly breeding for fights? Mildly interesting stuff. The "nanny dog" myth is just that--a myth. Just google "pit bull temperament test" and see hundreds of links confirming this. -source is me training dogs for a while and having more problems with poodles, jack Russell’s, and boarder collies. Visual determination of dog breed is known to not always be reliable.45 And witnesses may be predisposed to assume that a vicious dog is of this type. Depending on your definition that could include anywhere from 1 to 10 different actual “breeds”. His comments werenât surprising. Letâs be honestâ¦ We have all heard stories about Pit Bulls that attack people, about Pit Bulls that attack animalsâ¦ About Pit Bulls that do this, thatâ¦ And it is very rare to hear something positive about this dog breed.But, is all of that true? [+]FilthyKataMain comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (0 children), As someone who has worked with animals for over 25 years, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, You have absolutely 0 fucking clue what you're talking about, [–]ilikemath2 -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (32 children), https://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/5-reasons-why-pit-bulls-are-misunderstood/, https://americanpitbullfoundation.com/problem-people-pit-bulls/, https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/07/pit-bull-ban-aggressive-dog-breed-bronwen-dickey/, [–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (31 children), Shelters are overflowing with these beasts for a reason and I can confirm that it's not all because "problem people", [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (14 children), Are shelters overflowing with them because people give them up more often or because there are just so fucking many more of them than almost anything else? During the 13-year period of 2005 to 2017, canines killed 433 Americans. [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (1 child), https://dogbitelaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/all-dog-bite-statistics lmao x 2. [–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (2 children), All I have to say is check out emergency room stats. From their test description page: "The stranger is never closer than 10 feet from the dog. These posts are usually, but not exclusively, those that target a particular sex, race, sexual orientation, etc, when the user in question is hostile, vulgar or aggressive towards said group. Because most of their dogs "washed out," the group was then stuck with pit bulls they could not adopt out. Just reported. The pit bull type is particularly ambiguous as a "breed" encompassing a range of pedigree breeds, informal types and appearances that cannot be reliably identified. [–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (2 children). . ( except for maybe chihuahuas), [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (13 children). What began as a "breed advocacy" service dog stunt in 2011, ended in near disaster. Pit Bulls don't fail against a Golden standard; they fail against a Pit Bull standard. Your one stop sub for doggos, woofers, shoobs, puggos, cool doggos, sleepy doggos, lomg doggos, very fast doggos running at incredible hihg speeds, also puppers. You can find a list of the topics and their respective megathreads in a post on the top of the sub. We should exterminate the whole breed starting now. So it’s not the dog...it’s the owner. Most people I see talking about pit bulls being dangerous are not animal care professionals. Are you saying that this is all because of owners? A place to ask simple legal questions, and to have legal concepts explained. Mildly. Pit Bull Fancier, nobody has proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that theyâre particularly violent. Soooo, yeah. Pit bulls are of a breed of dog. Are you saying that this is all because of owners? They’re also misidentified by professionals 50% of the time, so bite statistics are suspect. In my experience, the lay public will call any mixed breed short haired dog over 40 pounds a pit or pit mix, so the term is basically useless as an identifier. The_Donald is a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. DogTraining: A forum on dog training and behavior. Moreover, pit bulls successfully pass the American temperament test, which assesses friendliness. "The founders' home became filled with dogs and we were thus unable to take in new service dog candidates to train," states the group. Please make sure to upvote well written unpopular/controversial opinions, and downvote badly written opinions OR popular opinions. Before we continue, we must first clarify what the âpit bull breedâ is. This applies for both your behaviour on the sub, and the opinions which you post. [–]scoonbug -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children). People who will spend the rest of their lives unable to walk properly due to having their calf muscles ripped out, or who will requires years of reconstructive surgery after a pit attack aren't counted among the fatalities. I’m sorry. You can’t confirm shit. 8 Minute Read. The ones we bred for our own pleasure, [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago* (13 children). https://nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-theres-no-argument-pit-bulls-kill, Here is a statement by a surgeon who routinely literally puts childrens' faces back together, unusually violent nature of pit attacks on children. [+]BigFadTiddyNips comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 2 years ago (0 children). These golden puppers are so misunderstood. Change my mind. If you have a meta opinion, put it in the megathread. It's in the name, ffs. However, using this test to gauge an animal's tendency towards sudden and unprovoked attacks is useless. I think a pure bread male pit might take more training but it depends on their personality. Your post must be an opinion. Per the ATTS website: "Comparing scores with other dogs is not a good idea" and the test "takes into consideration each breed's inherent tendencies". (self.unpopularopinion). According to the American Veterinary Medical Association , that's because the CDC stopped collecting breed data on dog attacks 1998. If you are gonna teach your dog to be mean to other people,he will. A lot of people treat dog's as humans and they are pack animals. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. Pit bulls make up about 6.5 percent of the total U.S. dog population. The pit bull parents I spoke to had nothing but love and good things to say about their furry friends â not a single account of viciousness. The other dog breeds with smaller sample sizes are misrepresented. Also consider that dog fighters still have to cull the majority of the pups their dogs have due to not being adequate to their purposes (they lack “gameness”). 2 years ago. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (9 children). Pit bull is also not a breed, it’s a type of dog that has been used to describe up to 20 different breeds. /r/dogs is a discussion-based subreddit, meant for asking questions, sharing information, and learning about our beloved canine companions and related dog-centric topics. Pit bulls are dangerous and should never be around children. Even though they’re adopting adult dogs (so they’re more predictable in terms of work ethic and temperament) they wash out a bunch. Are the dogs that evil and dangerous like in the stories? Yes, as would the AKC and the scientists who run temperament tests and consistently find that pit bulls are naturally one of the least aggressive breeds. 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